Mike Pence thinks Trump might still make it to the first debate

“One thing I realized about him, it's not over till it's over,” the former vice president said.

Mike Pence thinks Trump might still make it to the first debate

Former President Donald Trump has indicated that he may skip the first Republican presidential primary debate on Wednesday. But his former-running-mate-turned-primary-opponent thinks he might still make it to Milwaukee.

“I served alongside the president for a long time. And one thing I realized about him, it's not over till it's over,” former Vice President Mike Pence said Sunday during an interview on ABC’s “This Week.”

Pence is still hoping Trump shows up to Wednesday’s debate in Wisconsin. But according to the New York Times, the former president has other plans: an online interview with the former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

The potential interview with Carlson, who left his prime-time slot on Fox abruptly amid rumors of tension between the host and Fox leadership, would be a slap in the face to the network once lauded by Trump.

Other candidates aren’t too happy, either. Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who has attempted to goad the former president onto the debate stage, called Trump a “certified loser, verified coward” in a post on X following the Times report that the former president would be absent from the first debate.

“I think every one of us that have qualified for that debate stage ought to be on the stage, be willing to square off, answer the tough questions, and also draw a bright line contrast,” Pence said Sunday.